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The D'Hara empire

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    valerio92
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    Uomo Uccello
    00 29/09/2008 18:23
    In this novel Richard had to take a very important and painful decisoion to save the New world from the Imperial Order. He broke the Midlands alliance and asked every country to join his Empire because it's the only way to defend the New World. Some of the kingdoms accepted him and start preparing their soldiers like Kelton, Galea etc... Others accepted the Imperial Order and their countries were raze to the ground by its soldiers. Do you think Richard took the right decision????? Are there someone who think he's wrong???? Please let me know
    " I'm the one of the prophecies. I AM Fuer Grissa OSt Drauka. I'm the true Seeker of Truth because I'm the only one who could make the blade become white. I'm Lord Rahl and I'm searching my Mother Confessor......."
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    singularity
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    00 30/09/2008 18:28
    first off richard made decisions that showed how power hungry he was... as a rahl he wanted more people under his dominion and he took the excuse of saving the world from the order as his primary reason... he is no better than Jagang... a power hungry dictator...
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    valerio92
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    Uomo Uccello
    00 30/09/2008 18:45
    This time I have to disagree with you, dictatorships aren't always wrong and having a man like Richard,who take care of everybody live in the Creator's light, at the head of a nation could only work better than ever
    I respect your opinion too and everybody could think as he wants it isn't wrong only because I think differently. Is it right?????
    " I'm the one of the prophecies. I AM Fuer Grissa OSt Drauka. I'm the true Seeker of Truth because I'm the only one who could make the blade become white. I'm Lord Rahl and I'm searching my Mother Confessor......."
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    singularity
    Post: 486
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    00 30/09/2008 19:31
    i'm sorry, but a dictator is always a dictator... and how would you know that with time he would not become corrupt like many others? why would free people want to become slaves under a dictator, and one that carries a very bad reputation because of his father darken rahl? such presumption i believe makes him less than good...
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    valerio92
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    Uomo Uccello
    00 30/09/2008 19:46
    uhmmm I think you have a point. Only the time past in this situation could let one of us prevail on the other.
    " I'm the one of the prophecies. I AM Fuer Grissa OSt Drauka. I'm the true Seeker of Truth because I'm the only one who could make the blade become white. I'm Lord Rahl and I'm searching my Mother Confessor......."
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    singularity
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    00 30/09/2008 20:03
    if dictatorships aren't always wrong please tell me of one that was right.
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    valerio92
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    Uomo Uccello
    00 30/09/2008 20:18
    well in european history there were a lot of examples..... in realty they didin't think about them like dictators but they ruled like what now we recocnize as a dictator that are a lot of good Roman's emperor (octavianus,tiberio,marco aurelio and so on), and they did a lot of good things to the Empire...... I think that,like everything, there are some good dictators and also the bad ones
    " I'm the one of the prophecies. I AM Fuer Grissa OSt Drauka. I'm the true Seeker of Truth because I'm the only one who could make the blade become white. I'm Lord Rahl and I'm searching my Mother Confessor......."
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    singularity
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    00 30/09/2008 20:24
    but tell me... when octavius or tiberio or marco aurelio were emperor... what happened to people that spoke against these emperors? what happened to those that had different political views from those emperors? how many people did they killed because they opposed them? i could go on, but if you can answer these three questions i'll be happy...
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    valerio92
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    00 30/09/2008 20:48
    I think this questions can also be done to any govern ( empire, republic, kingdom and so on...) so what govern do you suggest is the better?
    " I'm the one of the prophecies. I AM Fuer Grissa OSt Drauka. I'm the true Seeker of Truth because I'm the only one who could make the blade become white. I'm Lord Rahl and I'm searching my Mother Confessor......."
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    singularity
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    00 30/09/2008 21:19
    definitely not a dictatorship... a democracy works best, but only if the people get truly involved and don't let the politicians run amock ... every so often even in a democracy you'll have an administration that tries to behave like a dictatorship... and it is the people and politicians that need to put a stop to the madness... naturally there are other people with power that might think just like the administration, making change very difficult... as an upbeat... with a democracy the adminitrations change within several years, they are not for life...
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    valerio92
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    00 30/09/2008 22:27
    I think we cannot decide who has reason if we don't try the experience
    " I'm the one of the prophecies. I AM Fuer Grissa OSt Drauka. I'm the true Seeker of Truth because I'm the only one who could make the blade become white. I'm Lord Rahl and I'm searching my Mother Confessor......."
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    singularity
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    00 30/09/2008 22:38
    i'm not sure i understand what you are trying to say...
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    valerio92
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    00 30/09/2008 22:44
    excuse me, I said that ours opinions can't prevail each other without us trying this experience
    " I'm the one of the prophecies. I AM Fuer Grissa OSt Drauka. I'm the true Seeker of Truth because I'm the only one who could make the blade become white. I'm Lord Rahl and I'm searching my Mother Confessor......."
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    singularity
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    00 30/09/2008 22:57
    ok... you just said, practically the same thing, and i still don't know what you are trying to tell me. try in italian and i'll tell you how to say it in english.
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    valerio92
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    Uomo Uccello
    00 30/09/2008 23:02
    ok Excuse again...
    I mean:" non possiamo sapere chi ha ragione se non proviamo l'esperienza"
    I'm so sorry to make you work harder to understand my english
    " I'm the one of the prophecies. I AM Fuer Grissa OSt Drauka. I'm the true Seeker of Truth because I'm the only one who could make the blade become white. I'm Lord Rahl and I'm searching my Mother Confessor......."
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    singularity
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    00 30/09/2008 23:12
    we cannot understand who is right if we don't have the experience...

    are you telling me you have not experienced a democracy?

    by the way don't worry about me working hard... it is important for you to learn more and better english.
    [Modificato da singularity 30/09/2008 23:13]
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    valerio92
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    Uomo Uccello
    00 30/09/2008 23:17
    ok thanks.
    it's this that i meant, but of course I've exerienced democracy (Italy is a democratic republic) but who know if having Richard as ruler would be better than having Bush or Berlusconi ( do you know the premier in Italy)??????
    " I'm the one of the prophecies. I AM Fuer Grissa OSt Drauka. I'm the true Seeker of Truth because I'm the only one who could make the blade become white. I'm Lord Rahl and I'm searching my Mother Confessor......."
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    singularity
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    00 30/09/2008 23:33
    no i really don't know the premier of italy...

    but naturally i really know bush...

    give me a small synopsis of berlusconi... please...
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    valerio92
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    Uomo Uccello
    00 30/09/2008 23:40
    well it's an entrepreneur who is the richest in Italy and he rules the govern (of course under the President of Republic)I think he is a little bush so you can understand who rule Italy isn't better than your president
    [Modificato da valerio92 30/09/2008 23:40]
    " I'm the one of the prophecies. I AM Fuer Grissa OSt Drauka. I'm the true Seeker of Truth because I'm the only one who could make the blade become white. I'm Lord Rahl and I'm searching my Mother Confessor......."
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    singularity
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    00 01/10/2008 01:32
    i see...
    well, we know that a democracy can fail depending on who the people vote for... but that person doesn't stay in office for the rest of his life like a dictator... so in this case there is light at the end of the tunnel... and a new president will eventually take office...
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